Josh Trank’s Behavior
Trank has had some dirt dug up on him regarding his behavior on the set of Fantastic Four, not to mention off the set where he was staying in Louisiana, as well as clashing in the editing room (which he was rumored to be locked out of) of the comic book adaptation. But that was all denied by Trank as he told The LA Times:
“None of those facts were true – and any of the facts that were true were spun in such a maliciously wrong way. If you ask anybody by name who I’ve worked with, from Simon to [producer] Hutch [Parker] or my crew or anybody else, they’d be like, ‘We’ve been working really hard on this movie and we’ve had an excellent time working together,’” he said. “It’s been a challenging movie — for all of the right reasons.”
But it was enough to get Trank removed from the Star Wars Anthology film in development, even though Trank also denies that, after Lucasfilm did some digging and found substantial enough evidence to prove that Trank was a risk they weren’t willing to take. The question is why was Trank behaving like this?
Who’s to Blame?
There are those who have said that any of the problems Trank had with the studio are normal conflicts that you face when making a movie of this scale with a lot of money involved, and the director just didn’t know how to handle them. Some say that though Trank may be a good storyteller, he didn’t have the experience to properly manage the studio’s expectations and interference, something that’s normal in Hollywood, even on projects directed by the likes of proven talents like Steven Spielberg or J.J. Abrams. Others think the studio was taking advantage of Trank’s inexperience as a way to ignore his creative direction.
It’s clear there is a variety of viewpoints on where the problems with the film stem from, with some saying Trank was indecisive during pre-production to others saying the studio was going back and forth about the decisions he was making. But one thing is for certain, and that’s the script wasn’t finalized until late in pre-production, was always changing, and that’s why the ending of the movie had to be entirely reconfigured, which is why critics have said the end of the movie feels completely independent from the first two acts. It’s this uncertainty of the story that resulted in confusion and stress from the beginning, which spread to the crew workers who were just trying to build sets, costumes and props, unsure of what they needed to do, with department heads unable to get their job done without being sure where the movie was going.
If you want to read more about the drama behind the scenes of Fantastic Four, I recommend reading Entertainment Weekly’s entire article about the matter with tons more information right here. On the next page, we take a look at some shots from trailers and featurettes that didn’t make it into the theatrically released version of the movie, including one sequence that would have utilized the Fantasticar.
What Went Wrong With ‘Fantastic Four,’ Plus See A Dozen Trailer Shots Cut From The Movie
By Ethan Anderton/Aug. 10, 2015 12:30 pm EST
So the big question, especially after director Josh Trank distanced himself from the final cut of the movie on Twitter, is what went wrong with Fantastic Four? There has been a lot of digging into the behind the scenes drama during the production of Fantastic Four, and it’s clear that there were plenty of problems from both Trank and the studio.
In addition, a look back at the footage released in trailers and behind the scenes featurettes shows that plenty of edits and cuts were made to the movie, resulting in the cut that Trank is clearly unhappy with. Learn more about the Fantastic Four cuts and problems after the jump!
Josh Trank’s Behavior
Trank has had some dirt dug up on him regarding his behavior on the set of Fantastic Four, not to mention off the set where he was staying in Louisiana, as well as clashing in the editing room (which he was rumored to be locked out of) of the comic book adaptation. But that was all denied by Trank as he told The LA Times:
“None of those facts were true – and any of the facts that were true were spun in such a maliciously wrong way. If you ask anybody by name who I’ve worked with, from Simon to [producer] Hutch [Parker] or my crew or anybody else, they’d be like, ‘We’ve been working really hard on this movie and we’ve had an excellent time working together,’” he said. “It’s been a challenging movie — for all of the right reasons.”
But it was enough to get Trank removed from the Star Wars Anthology film in development, even though Trank also denies that, after Lucasfilm did some digging and found substantial enough evidence to prove that Trank was a risk they weren’t willing to take. The question is why was Trank behaving like this?
But it was enough to get Trank removed from the Star Wars Anthology film in development, even though Trank also denies that, after Lucasfilm did some digging and found substantial enough evidence to prove that Trank was a risk they weren’t willing to take. The question is why was Trank behaving like this?
“None of those facts were true – and any of the facts that were true were spun in such a maliciously wrong way. If you ask anybody by name who I’ve worked with, from Simon to [producer] Hutch [Parker] or my crew or anybody else, they’d be like, ‘We’ve been working really hard on this movie and we’ve had an excellent time working together,’” he said. “It’s been a challenging movie — for all of the right reasons.”
Clashing with the Studio
Who’s to Blame?
There are those who have said that any of the problems Trank had with the studio are normal conflicts that you face when making a movie of this scale with a lot of money involved, and the director just didn’t know how to handle them. Some say that though Trank may be a good storyteller, he didn’t have the experience to properly manage the studio’s expectations and interference, something that’s normal in Hollywood, even on projects directed by the likes of proven talents like Steven Spielberg or J.J. Abrams. Others think the studio was taking advantage of Trank’s inexperience as a way to ignore his creative direction.
It’s clear there is a variety of viewpoints on where the problems with the film stem from, with some saying Trank was indecisive during pre-production to others saying the studio was going back and forth about the decisions he was making. But one thing is for certain, and that’s the script wasn’t finalized until late in pre-production, was always changing, and that’s why the ending of the movie had to be entirely reconfigured, which is why critics have said the end of the movie feels completely independent from the first two acts. It’s this uncertainty of the story that resulted in confusion and stress from the beginning, which spread to the crew workers who were just trying to build sets, costumes and props, unsure of what they needed to do, with department heads unable to get their job done without being sure where the movie was going.
If you want to read more about the drama behind the scenes of Fantastic Four, I recommend reading Entertainment Weekly’s entire article about the matter with tons more information right here. On the next page, we take a look at some shots from trailers and featurettes that didn’t make it into the theatrically released version of the movie, including one sequence that would have utilized the Fantasticar.
It’s clear there is a variety of viewpoints on where the problems with the film stem from, with some saying Trank was indecisive during pre-production to others saying the studio was going back and forth about the decisions he was making. But one thing is for certain, and that’s the script wasn’t finalized until late in pre-production, was always changing, and that’s why the ending of the movie had to be entirely reconfigured, which is why critics have said the end of the movie feels completely independent from the first two acts.
It’s this uncertainty of the story that resulted in confusion and stress from the beginning, which spread to the crew workers who were just trying to build sets, costumes and props, unsure of what they needed to do, with department heads unable to get their job done without being sure where the movie was going.
If you want to read more about the drama behind the scenes of Fantastic Four, I recommend reading Entertainment Weekly’s entire article about the matter with tons more information right here.
On the next page, we take a look at some shots from trailers and featurettes that didn’t make it into the theatrically released version of the movie, including one sequence that would have utilized the Fantasticar.
The Movie That Could Have Been
It’s easy to see in the final cut of Fantastic Four that there were extensive reshoots on the movie. Aside from how the ending doesn’t jibe all that well with the first two-thirds of the movie, Kate Mara is clearly wearing a mediocre wig in some scenes since the actress got a major haircut after production on the movie was finished. So there were clearly a lot of changes made late in the game.
Dave Gonzales, of Forbes, Geek.com and Latino Review, recently took to Twitter with a slew of shots from the trailers we’ve seen for Fantastic Four from sequences that we don’t see in the movie. Here they are:
Not in the movie. pic.twitter.com/250REWHNMV
— Da7e Gonzales (@Da7e) August 9, 2015
Not in the movie. pic.twitter.com/oX5I88jZ6y
not in the movie. pic.twitter.com/fv7xSZOGbi
Not in the movie pic.twitter.com/bJ3AvCMCWK
Not in the movie pic.twitter.com/gAwj818vCo
not in the movie pic.twitter.com/mbaey6G8Sk
Not in the movie pic.twitter.com/AMWA1td9HY
And, yes, not in the movie. That’s still not ALL of them. Because: jeez. pic.twitter.com/0d0s8hqGB5
“What about this shot Da7e?” “Surprisingly, I do not think it is in the movie.” pic.twitter.com/fRbAZFpflB
Hey! (not in the movie) pic.twitter.com/6KM4a5Y0Oq
This is the 11th shot in teasers 1 and 2 that is not in the movie. pic.twitter.com/Z7oNcYZXTR
And in case you need further clarification that there were a bunch of changes made to the movie, screenwriter Jeremy Slater wrote this on Twitter:
There’s not a ton of my stuff left in the movie (mostly the 1st act), but I’ll always be honored that I got to play in such a cool sandbox.
— Jeremy Slater (@jerslater) August 7, 2015
And if that wasn’t enough, here’s some B-roll footage that shows there was a sequence seemingly involving flying a version of the Fantasticar back to the planet where they obtained their powers (via Collider):
If you don’t want to watch the video, here’s the shots that show the Fantasticar:
So @joshuatrank ’s climax involved the FantastiCar pic.twitter.com/u1WTIk6TSE
— Da7e Gonzales (@Da7e) August 10, 2015
Clearly it’s a makeshift version of the vehicle, which would have made for a cool payoff from Reed Richards’ teacher teasing him about the flying car he was working on when he was a kid, but this sequence didn’t make it into the movie.
It looks like there’s some key character development with Ben Grimm (Jamie Bell) and some other action sequences that didn’t make their way into the final cut. The question is just how much would this have changed the overall movie? Is there a more cohesive story here? What are we missing? And if you want more food for thought, why do the posters feature the Fantastic Four in New York City with buildings crumbling and asteroids falling?
@Da7e For your not-in-the-movie list: Posters depicting the FF in NYC with ruined buildings, falling asteroids. pic.twitter.com/ORzujsCutp
— Matt Singer (@mattsinger) August 9, 2015
That’s definitely something weird to have in the marketing when nothing like that happens in the movie.
What do you think about the new Fantastic Four? Do you want to see this alternate cut that exists somewhere?
